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IDProjectCategoryLast Update
0027514AI War 2Graphical BugNov 13, 2022 1:42 pm
ReporterLord Of Nothing Assigned To 
Severityminor 
Status assignedResolutionopen 
Product Version5.500 Classic Fusion, And A Megaton Otherwise 
Summary0027514: Strange graphical glitches.
DescriptionI put the video clip showing the bug here, as It's a little larger a file than I wanted to chuck on mantis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUpi4dyMwxA
As you can see, the bug includes: Either the sidebar update rate has slowed down considerably, OR the main planet view is not showing ships that are still there. (0:23 onwards)
Either ships are firing at the wrong location, OR the main planet view is not showing ships that are still there. (0:10 or 0:23 are good examples)
Explosions from dying ships are in the wrong place. (0:06 onwards)

There is actually another bug that I've been getting, which is ships and their icons briefly appearing in random places as ships are dying on a planet, but I haven't been able to get a screen capture of that one.

You can also see this in the attached savegame. I have used anger management to boost the hacking response to make things easier to see. I would have preferred to attach the one I used to make the clip linked above as for some reason it's even clearer there, but that one has non-distributed mods.

While in both cases I've used hacks to easily get a big blob of AI ships on command, I've also observed this issue occurring in fights with non-hack ships, such as exostrikes.

I've never noticed any of these issues before the most recent patch, but that's not to say they weren't there, I've never been super observant. But certainly I have trouble believing that they were this prevalent before.
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Lord Of Nothing

Jul 9, 2022 11:57 am

reporter  

Graphical test.save (691,360 bytes)

Lampshade

Jul 9, 2022 12:28 pm

reporter   ~0067063

I have also seen graphical bugs, mostly just phantom unit circles on the 'ground' on planet view (screenshot attached). These are basically on every planet in the same formation every time.
AIWar2_gKkcgsqvIa.png (470,390 bytes)

Chris_McElligottPark

Jul 9, 2022 4:24 pm

administrator   ~0067065

If you use the most_recent_stable, do these go away? That is the prior patch.

Lord Of Nothing

Jul 9, 2022 4:56 pm

reporter   ~0067066

Last edited: Jul 9, 2022 4:56 pm

I just tested four nearly identical situations on most_recent_stable and I couldn't see any signs of it at all on those. So I think it is new with this patch.

Chris_McElligottPark

Jul 9, 2022 5:18 pm

administrator   ~0067067

If you're on the latest version and you do a validation of the local steam files, do these come back?

Chris_McElligottPark

Jul 9, 2022 5:24 pm

administrator   ~0067068

This might be caused by this new code, not sure yet:
image.png (107,920 bytes)   
image.png (107,920 bytes)   

Chris_McElligottPark

Jul 9, 2022 5:27 pm

administrator   ~0067069

Nevermind, that code seems okay.

Lord Of Nothing

Jul 9, 2022 5:32 pm

reporter   ~0067070

I switched back to the latest version and they re-appeared, I then did another file validation (I already did one earlier) and they're still there. (All files validated successfully both times.)

Chris_McElligottPark

Jul 9, 2022 5:42 pm

administrator   ~0067071

Okay, thanks for the confirmation. Sigh.

Dismiss

Jul 13, 2022 9:01 pm

developer   ~0067085

I was able to reproduce a not mentioned in this ticket case of ships flipflopping in 'at local planet' by loading the graphical test save. I committed a fix by making that sort stable.

So reproduced the ship death effects not being anywhere close to the ships by loading the save and doing the outguard hack. The behavior im seeing is: first batches of ships that die show explosions at the right location. After some fairly brief time the explosions just keep occurring there in the same location were there is no longer a ship. I kill a ship and i see the same explosion re-explode at the old position. Its like death effect pool items are actually not getting a proper new position?

I don't know much more about this system but just wanted to at least give it a shot before unassigning from myself.

Dismiss

Jul 13, 2022 9:03 pm

developer   ~0067086

I just realized... was that save suppose to be classic fusion? Because i loaded it without issue without CF on at all... might be concerning.

Lord Of Nothing

Jul 13, 2022 9:45 pm

reporter   ~0067087

The save is regular, unmodded AIW2.

Lord Of Nothing

Jul 15, 2022 1:24 pm

reporter   ~0067094

Last edited: Jul 15, 2022 1:24 pm

I noticed today in my current game during a battle that more than a few ships had this error in their tooltips, I couldn't help but wonder if it was related...
I have died.png (2,910,082 bytes)

Lord Of Nothing

Jul 15, 2022 1:26 pm

reporter   ~0067095

Last edited: Jul 15, 2022 1:27 pm

There was also this one, and for reference, the ship I am mouseing over is the vanguard circled.
Neither of these errors survive save-load.
I have died and more.png (2,309,101 bytes)

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
Jul 9, 2022 11:57 am Lord Of Nothing New Issue
Jul 9, 2022 11:57 am Lord Of Nothing File Added: Graphical test.save
Jul 9, 2022 12:28 pm Lampshade Note Added: 0067063
Jul 9, 2022 12:28 pm Lampshade File Added: AIWar2_gKkcgsqvIa.png
Jul 9, 2022 4:24 pm Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0067065
Jul 9, 2022 4:56 pm Lord Of Nothing Note Added: 0067066
Jul 9, 2022 4:56 pm Lord Of Nothing Note Edited: 0067066
Jul 9, 2022 5:18 pm Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0067067
Jul 9, 2022 5:24 pm Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0067068
Jul 9, 2022 5:24 pm Chris_McElligottPark File Added: image.png
Jul 9, 2022 5:27 pm Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0067069
Jul 9, 2022 5:32 pm Lord Of Nothing Note Added: 0067070
Jul 9, 2022 5:41 pm Chris_McElligottPark Assigned To => Dismiss
Jul 9, 2022 5:41 pm Chris_McElligottPark Status new => assigned
Jul 9, 2022 5:42 pm Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0067071
Jul 13, 2022 9:01 pm Dismiss Note Added: 0067085
Jul 13, 2022 9:03 pm Dismiss Note Added: 0067086
Jul 13, 2022 9:45 pm Lord Of Nothing Note Added: 0067087
Jul 13, 2022 10:11 pm Dismiss Assigned To Dismiss =>
Jul 15, 2022 1:24 pm Lord Of Nothing Note Added: 0067094
Jul 15, 2022 1:24 pm Lord Of Nothing File Added: I have died.png
Jul 15, 2022 1:24 pm Lord Of Nothing Note Edited: 0067094
Jul 15, 2022 1:26 pm Lord Of Nothing Note Added: 0067095
Jul 15, 2022 1:26 pm Lord Of Nothing File Added: I have died and more.png
Jul 15, 2022 1:27 pm Lord Of Nothing Note Edited: 0067095
Nov 13, 2022 1:42 pm Lord Of Nothing Relationship added related to 0027636