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IDProjectCategoryLast Update
0024320AI War 2Balance IssueJan 14, 2021 9:04 pm
ReporterArides Assigned To 
Severityminor 
Status newResolutionopen 
Product Version2.715 Unload Queuing 
Summary0024320: Mapgen: Spire archive 2 jumps from HW
DescriptionSpire archive spawns on a lightly defended planet visible from game start, and can be taken right away. This seems... odd. I don't know if it's intended to spawn this way, but reporting just to be sure.
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Arides

Jan 14, 2021 12:31 pm

reporter  

spire archive bug.save (313,194 bytes)

Chris_McElligottPark

Jan 14, 2021 12:43 pm

administrator   ~0060288

Was this a really full map in general? It should not spawn there unless there was so much stuff elsewhere that there were not really any options.

BadgerBadger

Jan 14, 2021 2:28 pm

manager   ~0060291

Was this on an X map?

Arides

Jan 14, 2021 3:11 pm

reporter   ~0060292

Well, I've seen mapgen place high-value targets (or AI homeworlds) really close to player HW, especially in multiplayer when there are 3 AI empires.
However this case is single player, and the map is a 80 star square grid. I am starting in the top right corner. Plenty of space in the bottom left corner and around it I'd say. Map screenshot attached.
I'm starting to think mapgen has some issue with properly placing 3 AI empires.
20210114210914_1.jpg (473,014 bytes)

Arides

Jan 14, 2021 3:30 pm

reporter   ~0060293

Now that I think of it, I also prefer playing with 2+ dyson spheres (2 on this map). If there maybe some logic that tries to be far away from those?

Crabby

Jan 14, 2021 6:34 pm

reporter   ~0060295

Having more than one AI Overlord can cause the Overlords to be closer to you than usual.

Chris_McElligottPark

Jan 14, 2021 9:04 pm

administrator   ~0060297

It does try to put the overlords pretty far from one another, yeah.

I could load your save in as a source for mapgen, and see if it does the same thing as before.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
Jan 14, 2021 12:31 pm Arides New Issue
Jan 14, 2021 12:31 pm Arides File Added: spire archive bug.save
Jan 14, 2021 12:31 pm Arides File Added: spire archive bug.savemet
Jan 14, 2021 12:43 pm Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0060288
Jan 14, 2021 2:28 pm BadgerBadger Note Added: 0060291
Jan 14, 2021 3:11 pm Arides File Added: 20210114210914_1.jpg
Jan 14, 2021 3:11 pm Arides Note Added: 0060292
Jan 14, 2021 3:30 pm Arides Note Added: 0060293
Jan 14, 2021 6:34 pm Crabby Note Added: 0060295
Jan 14, 2021 9:04 pm Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0060297