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IDProjectCategoryLast Update
0023867AI War 2Bug - GameplayOct 2, 2020 11:02 pm
Reporterjulian509 Assigned ToChris_McElligottPark  
Status resolvedResolutionfixed 
Product Version2.604 A Thousand Screaming Idiots 
Fixed in Version2.605 Hunter Intelligence 
Summary0023867: Dark spire spector not scaling with upgrades
DescriptionThe dark spire spector is not properly scaling off of higher heavy hull tech as the mark 3 retains the same stats as the mark 1, nor does it have a weapons tech associated with upgrading it. This is base game without mods.
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related to 0023777 new DS Spectre/Specter misnamed Spector and lacks tech branch 

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julian509

Oct 2, 2020 4:57 pm

reporter  

bugged spector.save (205,023 bytes)

Chris_McElligottPark

Oct 2, 2020 6:01 pm

administrator   ~0058921

Thanks!

* Fixed an issue with the Dark Spire ships that humans were able to hack for. Essentially, the does_not_use_multipliers_from_mark_level flag was being inherited from the dark spire faction versions, so this made all faction levels act the same. Now they properly upgrade their stats over mark level increases.
** In addition, all of the dark spire human ships now get upgraded by the Heavy tech type. But they still remain without weapon techs (you have to use fleet upgrades to get them the rest of the way).


I didn't see any dark spire spectors that were human-owned in your save there, but I did check the exports of unit stats and they seem to work now. If there are still issues, please let me know what save to look in. The non-human-owned spectors should not be upgrading at all, but that's not what you were screenshotting I don't think, so I think we're on the same page.

Cheers!

julian509

Oct 2, 2020 6:18 pm

reporter   ~0058924

AI spectors indeed do not benefit from upgrading as intended

Chris_McElligottPark

Oct 2, 2020 6:21 pm

administrator   ~0058926

Dark spire spectors should not be able to upgrade at all if it is their own faction. I did correct them having a tech line as if they were able to benefit from one. Now they just stick at their one strength at all times, and should never change mark levels.

crawlers

Oct 2, 2020 10:20 pm

reporter   ~0058936

Fleet upgrades do not affect ship lines (except for factory drones and battlestation turrets), so it isn't possible to upgrade them past mk 3 with this change.

BadgerBadger

Oct 2, 2020 10:46 pm

manager   ~0058937

If we let it go up to 7 we probably need to make the Dark Spire response.

Everyone, I'm curious what people feel about the balance of the Dark Spire "you stole a ship" response. There's the initial battle, then the DS should be getting more ships than usual. Does it feel scary, or does it feel easy.

Chris_McElligottPark

Oct 2, 2020 10:47 pm

administrator   ~0058938

They now also start at mark 1, though, which is way weaker than it was prior to this version (locked to mark 3).

Since you can only upgrade hulls directly, it's hard to get beyond mark 4 hulls, and really pricey (fleet science upgrades) to get to mark 7. So... we'll see, I suppose.

crawlers

Oct 2, 2020 11:02 pm

reporter   ~0058939

But these aren't hulls, they are ship lines, and hull upgrades don't affect ship lines (except for drones built into the hull and battlestation/citadel turrets). What exactly is suppose to get these ship lines so they gets upgraded along with it?

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
Oct 2, 2020 4:57 pm julian509 New Issue
Oct 2, 2020 4:57 pm julian509 File Added: 48e3866c0ea62ee39176233358058c1e.png
Oct 2, 2020 4:57 pm julian509 File Added: bugged spector.save
Oct 2, 2020 4:58 pm julian509 Description Updated
Oct 2, 2020 6:01 pm Chris_McElligottPark Assigned To => Chris_McElligottPark
Oct 2, 2020 6:01 pm Chris_McElligottPark Status new => resolved
Oct 2, 2020 6:01 pm Chris_McElligottPark Resolution open => fixed
Oct 2, 2020 6:01 pm Chris_McElligottPark Fixed in Version => 2.605 Hunter Intelligence
Oct 2, 2020 6:01 pm Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0058921
Oct 2, 2020 6:18 pm julian509 Note Added: 0058924
Oct 2, 2020 6:21 pm Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0058926
Oct 2, 2020 6:32 pm RocketAssistedPuffin Relationship added related to 0023777
Oct 2, 2020 10:20 pm crawlers Note Added: 0058936
Oct 2, 2020 10:46 pm BadgerBadger Note Added: 0058937
Oct 2, 2020 10:47 pm Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0058938
Oct 2, 2020 11:02 pm crawlers Note Added: 0058939