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| ID | Project | Category | Date Submitted | Last Update | |
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| 0023497 | AI War 2 | Balance Issue | Aug 2, 2020 7:45 pm | Aug 3, 2020 7:33 pm | |
| Reporter | MasterGeese | Assigned To | BadgerBadger | ||
| Severity | minor | ||||
| Status | resolved | Resolution | fixed | ||
| Product Version | 2.112 Steam Networking Complete | ||||
| Fixed in Version | 2.115 Imperial Summons | ||||
| Summary | 0023497: Underwhelmed by Spire Transceiver Defense | ||||
| Description | This was my first campaign where I went for the spire transceiver alternate win condition, I remember from AI war I the effort it took to defend against the AI's last desparate assault would often be down to the wire, and a test of even the most potent defenses. So when I attempted it this time around, I made sure to park all my fleets on a chokepoint world and fortified that world to 1k+ immobile strength. When the assault started, I had about 2.5k strength total on that planet. I started the hack, fully expecting to get my ass whooped and learn from what went wrong. The first attempt an unrelated raid from the hunter fleet knocked my power offline and caused a brownout. It might have been salvageable, but I decided to immediately restart and fortify that world so that didn't happen again. On my second attempt, it was almost laughable easy. the AI threw thousands of fleetpower at me, but it would trickle in to my fortress system a few hundred at a time and get instantly gibbed before it got more than one volley off. I could have gone afk and everything would have been fine. I feel like the transceiver defense should be much more challenging to pull off, given that it's an alternate win condition. Implementing counters to holing up in a single fortress world would go a long way towards solving this; perhaps wormhole invasions tied to the transceiver assault, or the AI assaulting worlds other than the chokepoint, aiming to take out GCAs, eco stations, etc. | ||||
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNkrF43SZEU |
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Okay, so you've actually defended extremely well. I'm not sure I have a good mechanism that will allow the AI to challenge you but not be a giant difficulty spike to other players. I don't want to use Wormhole Invasions because that feels like the AI is cheating its response. And even if the AI gets bonus attacks on planets outside your choke point, those are all extremely well defended too. I shall continue to consider, but honestly I think you are in an extremely domination position, and you should be able to win by any mechanism without too much difficulty. |
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Okay! The AI now generates some weaker bonus exos against miscellaneous player targets (energy producers, MDCs, GCAs, etc), just to keep things exciting. Fix a bug where Exos were trickling into their targets instead of moving as groups. Start the Exos the moment you finish the hack, instead of some random time < 30 seconds from when the transceiver finishes. After these changes, you go from "Comfortable destroying all the Exos" to "Dying with 60 seconds left tille the Imperial Fleet arrives" I think these changes aren't going to be in till 2.114 |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| Aug 2, 2020 7:45 pm | MasterGeese | New Issue | |
| Aug 2, 2020 7:45 pm | MasterGeese | File Added: transceiver complete attempt 2.save | |
| Aug 2, 2020 10:02 pm | BadgerBadger | Assigned To | => BadgerBadger |
| Aug 2, 2020 10:02 pm | BadgerBadger | Status | new => assigned |
| Aug 2, 2020 10:03 pm | BadgerBadger | Note Added: 0057937 | |
| Aug 3, 2020 2:40 pm | BadgerBadger | Note Added: 0057947 | |
| Aug 3, 2020 7:32 pm | BadgerBadger | Note Added: 0057951 | |
| Aug 3, 2020 7:32 pm | BadgerBadger | Note Edited: 0057951 | |
| Aug 3, 2020 7:33 pm | BadgerBadger | Status | assigned => resolved |
| Aug 3, 2020 7:33 pm | BadgerBadger | Resolution | open => fixed |
| Aug 3, 2020 7:33 pm | BadgerBadger | Fixed in Version | => 2.115 Imperial Summons |
