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IDProjectCategoryLast Update
0021136AI War 2Balance IssueJun 26, 2019 6:48 pm
ReporterApthorpe Assigned ToRocketAssistedPuffin  
Status closedResolutionfixed 
Product VersionBETA 0.853 An Officer And A Bunch Of Fleets 
Fixed in Version0.871 More Control, Part 1 
Summary0021136: Ark & Citadel science may be overpriced
DescriptionAccording to 0.853's version notes: "Note that officer fleets and non-officer fleets are NOT intended to be balanced with one another (officer fleets are more powerful, naturally), but the officer fleets are more rare and more powerful as well as more expensive in general."

Officer fleets being more powerful than non-officer fleets hasn't been my experience so far, however, b/c I haven't been upgrading my arks. The science cost is just too much compared to the benefits I get from upgrading small ships and frigates. My arks and citadels end up feeling fragile by comparison. The main indicator for a fleet's strength has been its frigate count, whether it has an ark or not.

I like the change of fleets no longer always having arks, as it helps retain arks feeling special, but that does mean upgrading arks is even less valuable b/c they're simply less common. When you consider that there are several ark science options, each of which only affects one ark category, it makes it even less likely that a particular ark science option will be worthwhile.

My inclination is that ark & citadel science costs should be lower for at least the earlier mark levels. Right now my fleets are traveling around with lots of Mk V-VII ships and frigates (the assault frigates and siege frigates are especially devastating), but all my arks and citadels are still Mk I b/c I can't justify the cost for comparatively so little gain.

Maybe the fleet experience system will fix this issue when it's implemented, but I wanted to raise this just in case.
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RocketAssistedPuffin

Apr 25, 2019 7:17 pm

reporter   ~0051412

* Battlestation, Citadel and Ark Tech Upgrade costs reduced.

* "Spire Core" Tech Upgrade cost reduced a bit.

See how they are. They're not...super big reductions.

RocketAssistedPuffin

Jun 26, 2019 6:48 pm

reporter   ~0051970

Closing because neither of these seem to have Science upgrades anymore - that's entirely done via Experience now.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
Apr 25, 2019 12:12 am Apthorpe New Issue
Apr 25, 2019 12:28 am Apthorpe Description Updated
Apr 25, 2019 12:30 am Apthorpe Description Updated
Apr 25, 2019 12:32 am Apthorpe Description Updated
Apr 25, 2019 8:25 am RocketAssistedPuffin Assigned To => RocketAssistedPuffin
Apr 25, 2019 8:25 am RocketAssistedPuffin Status new => assigned
Apr 25, 2019 7:17 pm RocketAssistedPuffin Status assigned => requires feedback
Apr 25, 2019 7:17 pm RocketAssistedPuffin Note Added: 0051412
Jun 26, 2019 6:48 pm RocketAssistedPuffin Status requires feedback => closed
Jun 26, 2019 6:48 pm RocketAssistedPuffin Resolution open => fixed
Jun 26, 2019 6:48 pm RocketAssistedPuffin Fixed in Version => 0.871 More Control, Part 1
Jun 26, 2019 6:48 pm RocketAssistedPuffin Note Added: 0051970