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IDProjectCategoryLast Update
0001618AI War 1 / ClassicBug - OtherDec 3, 2010 10:23 pm
Reportersnrub_guy Assigned ToChris_McElligottPark  
Status resolvedResolutionfixed 
Product Version4.041 
Fixed in Version4.043 
Summary0001618: Asteroids very rare?
DescriptionStarted a new game, and was under the impression that asteroids were meant to be on all non homeworld planets. I have found very few planets with asteroids in my initial scouting. Tried generating another map, same problem. They exist, but seem much less common than before, when they are meant to be more common now.
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related to 0001742 resolvedChris_McElligottPark Titanite not seeded on every 80-planet map 
has duplicate 0001624 resolvedChris_McElligottPark Bug: Asteroid frequency lowered? 

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snrub_guy

Nov 25, 2010 5:05 pm

reporter  

no asteroids.sav (172,821 bytes)

wyvern83

Nov 25, 2010 5:35 pm

reporter   ~0004520

I've noticed this as well, many of the maps I generated felt much more sparse then they were before when it came to asteroids. I expected all non-homeworld planets to have them and was surprised that many plants did not.

It's also a problem for converted saves, so it isn't just fresh ones.

Chris_McElligottPark

Dec 2, 2010 6:57 pm

administrator   ~0004930

Thanks!

LintMan

Dec 2, 2010 11:58 pm

reporter   ~0005008

I just created a new map in 4.043, and looking around with the "I can see my house" view all planets cheat turned on, it doesn't seem like there's particularly more asteroids than before, but then I'm not sure what the intended amounts are supposed to be.

Chris_McElligottPark

Dec 3, 2010 9:00 am

administrator   ~0005026

You do have the spirecraft minor faction turned on, yes?

LintMan

Dec 3, 2010 8:18 pm

reporter   ~0005081

Yes, I do have the spire minor faction enabled. :)

I checked the map again now with the new asteroid filter (thanks for that!) and it seems I started ina somewhat sparse asteroid area on the 4.043 map I was looking at: it seems overall about as much as my pre-4.041 map save, so it looks like it's improved from 4.041. But I had thought 4.041 was supposed to put asteroids on all the non-homeword planets...

From the 4.041 release notes:
When asteroids are seeded into a campaign, they are now seeded onto all non-homeworld worlds. This makes them work in a much more friendly fashion with long-running existing savegames.

Or am I misunderstanding that?

Chris_McElligottPark

Dec 3, 2010 9:39 pm

administrator   ~0005086

Yes, they should be on almost all non-homeworld planets. Not all types on every planet, of course.

What you may be seeing is just a factor of random clustering in this specific map: right now it's not a portional thing, but a random-chance-per-planet. That means that in certain seeds, you see no Titanite, and in others you might even see almost no planets with asteroids at all. That's a problem that I'll fix in 4.045, to make it portional instead of random-per-planet. Hopefully that's what this is, because I am not seeing it when I start new maps.

LintMan

Dec 3, 2010 10:20 pm

reporter   ~0005097

That must be it, then. Thanks!

Chris_McElligottPark

Dec 3, 2010 10:23 pm

administrator   ~0005098

Sure thing! If you still see it in the next one, do let me know, though.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
Nov 25, 2010 5:05 pm snrub_guy New Issue
Nov 25, 2010 5:05 pm snrub_guy File Added: no asteroids.sav
Nov 25, 2010 5:35 pm wyvern83 Note Added: 0004520
Nov 25, 2010 10:24 pm wyvern83 Relationship added has duplicate 0001624
Dec 2, 2010 6:57 pm Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0004930
Dec 2, 2010 6:57 pm Chris_McElligottPark Status new => resolved
Dec 2, 2010 6:57 pm Chris_McElligottPark Fixed in Version => 4.043
Dec 2, 2010 6:57 pm Chris_McElligottPark Resolution open => fixed
Dec 2, 2010 6:57 pm Chris_McElligottPark Assigned To => Chris_McElligottPark
Dec 2, 2010 11:58 pm LintMan Note Added: 0005008
Dec 3, 2010 9:00 am Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0005026
Dec 3, 2010 8:18 pm LintMan Note Added: 0005081
Dec 3, 2010 9:39 pm Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0005086
Dec 3, 2010 10:20 pm LintMan Note Added: 0005097
Dec 3, 2010 10:23 pm Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0005098
Dec 3, 2010 10:23 pm Chris_McElligottPark Relationship added related to 0001742