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0009987AI WarSuggestion - Balance TweaksApr 11, 2013 10:12 am
ReporterTechSY730Assigned To 
Status newResolutionopen 
Product Version6.009 
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Summary0009987: Refactor very low cap fleet ships into bonus starships
DescriptionNow that bonus starship logic is in place, I think refactoring very low cap fleet ships (<= 5 cap) into bonus starships would be a good idea. They "feel" more like starships anyways, so why not make them as such?

This would also make the AI treat them like starships (spawning costs, restrictions, etc), easing the balance efforts of trying to get the AI "cost" formula to scale, and reducing the risk of the AI abusing a "loophole" to get broken numbers of them too quickly (there are still some reports of this happening, which should also be looked into)

Their cap stats would probably need to be adjusted some to match the starship model (higher cap health, lower cap dps compared to fleet ships).

Also, their knowledge costs would need tweaking too (especially the Mk. III, as the Mk. IV would be unlocked separately)
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related to 0002869 closedkeith.lamothe Give the "starship like" tier of fleet ships a hard cap in waves 



Dec 7, 2012 5:25 pm

reporter   ~0029098

Relating an old, weaker form of this suggestion I made long ago.

Faulty Logic

Dec 7, 2012 6:12 pm

reporter   ~0029099

Though instead of rebalancing their costs, we could add an Advanced Starship Factory.


Dec 9, 2012 11:43 am

reporter   ~0029104

Just a side comment, I consider some of these bonus shiptypes like "pseudo-frigates" or "corvettes". They kind of sit slightly below a full starship, and don't necessary have to be reformulated to be one.

Stealth battleships definitely sound like starships though. :P

Radiant Phoenix

Jan 2, 2013 12:53 am

reporter   ~0029418

Note: the only current bonus starship is, in fact, a corvette.


Jan 6, 2013 1:48 am

reporter   ~0029605

But it's Spire Corvette...and we know that their ship scale is rather different than humans...


Apr 11, 2013 10:12 am

reporter   ~0031477

Now that Starships have lower caps I don't think this is a good idea anymore.

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Date Modified Username Field Change
Dec 7, 2012 5:25 pm TechSY730 New Issue
Dec 7, 2012 5:25 pm TechSY730 Description Updated View Revisions
Dec 7, 2012 5:25 pm TechSY730 Note Added: 0029098
Dec 7, 2012 5:26 pm TechSY730 Relationship added related to 0002869
Dec 7, 2012 6:12 pm Faulty Logic Note Added: 0029099
Dec 9, 2012 11:43 am zharmad Note Added: 0029104
Jan 2, 2013 12:53 am Radiant Phoenix Note Added: 0029418
Jan 6, 2013 1:48 am onyhow Note Added: 0029605
Apr 11, 2013 10:12 am Kahuna Note Added: 0031477