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| ID | Project | Category | Date Submitted | Last Update | |
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| 0009012 | AI War 1 / Classic | Crash/Exception | Jul 21, 2012 5:17 pm | Jul 30, 2012 11:01 pm | |
| Reporter | BlackCobra | Assigned To | keith.lamothe | ||
| Status | resolved | Resolution | fixed | ||
| Product Version | 5.045 | ||||
| Fixed in Version | 5.051 | ||||
| Summary | 0009012: crash | ||||
| Description | it crashd out of the blue. i've added a rar file with 3 crashes and my last savegame before one crash | ||||
| Tags | No tags attached. | ||||
| Internal Weight | New | ||||
| has duplicate | 0009055 | closed | keith.lamothe | CTD while playing |
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Can you look for and and post the following files in your AIW directory's RuntimeData directory? ArcenDebugLog.txt UnhandledExceptions.txt It looks like an out-of-memory problem, which seems possible but odd given the relatively early phase of the game. Also, to clarify: this is marked as 5.045, but the most recent version of the game is 5.046; was this on 5.045? Thanks :) |
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ArcenDebugLog.txt (2,579 bytes)
7/21/2012 5:20:56 PM UnhandledErrors: 7/21/2012 5:20:56 PM (5.045) -----------------------------------Error-----------------------------------Log String: FixedUpdate: System.Exception: Game Command Text:22;0;0 System.OutOfMemoryException: Out of memory at (wrapper managed-to-native) object:__icall_wrapper_mono_string_alloc (intptr) at (wrapper managed-to-native) string:InternalAllocateStr (int) at System.Text.StringBuilder..ctor (System.String value, Int32 startIndex, Int32 length, Int32 capacity, Int32 maxCapacity) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at System.Text.StringBuilder..ctor (System.String value, Int32 startIndex, Int32 length, Int32 capacity) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at System.Text.StringBuilder..ctor (Int32 capacity) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at Game.DoFullSync (Boolean IsForSave, Boolean SendBeginFromLobby, Int32 JustForPlayerNumber, Boolean DoCompression) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at Game.DoSaveGame (System.String Filename, Boolean ShowDialogs) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at GameCommand.Execute () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at Game.RunOneCycleOfSimulation () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at Game.RunOneCycleOfSimulation () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at Game.RunNextCycle (Boolean DoRendering) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at Game.RunFrame () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at MainCameraLogic.FixedUpdate () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 Stack Trace: at Game.RunOneCycleOfSimulation () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at Game.RunNextCycle (Boolean DoRendering) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at Game.RunFrame () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at MainCameraLogic.FixedUpdate () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at System.Environment.get_StackTrace() at ArcenDebugging.ArcenDebugLog(System.String Message, DebugLogDestination Destination, Boolean IncludeStackTrace, Verbosity Verbosity) at ArcenDebugging.ArcenDebugLog(System.String Message, DebugLogDestination Destination, Verbosity Verbosity) at ArcenDebugging.ArcenDebugLog(System.String Message, Verbosity Verbosity) at Configuration.WriteToErrorFile(System.String ErrorFile, System.String ErrorName, System.String ErrorText) at MainCameraLogic.LogWritten(System.String LogString, System.String StackTrace, LogType Type, System.Exception Cause, Boolean CameFromUnity) at MainCameraLogic.LogWritten(System.String LogString, System.String StackTrace, LogType Type, System.Exception Cause) at MainCameraLogic.FixedUpdate() |
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yes, it was on 5.045 and it seems like i can't find UnhandledExceptions.txt in the RuntimeData directory |
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new crash no new ArcenDebugLog.txt or UnhandledExceptions.txt |
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Think I might have encountered this same thing. Crashed for no discernible reason (I was sitting and watching some things build about 5 hours into the game). Was with version 5.046 where I was a player in a multiplayer game (not the host). I seemed to be the only player that crashed. Attached in file "Crash_2012-07-21_151008.zip" is the 'crash' folder, most recent Autosave prior to the crash (for what that's worth) and also UnhandledErrors.txt and ArcenDebugLog.txt from the RuntimeData directory. |
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crashed again, but now with 5.046 but no crashreport/ArcenDebugLog/UnhandledExceptions not even the "ooops it crashed" window Oo edit: new crash with 5.046 edit2: i didn't change the resolution nor did i alt + tab out |
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Hmm, all the indications I can see are out-of-memory problems, which doesn't make a lot of sense since we weren't really getting many reports of these a few versions ago and 5.046 should actually be a substantial improvement memory-wise. |
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i have search around the internet a little and i found someting interesting. seems like its a bug in the 3.5 renderer (are you using 3.5?)(they added multithreading with 3.5), but it happens only on 64b windows version. lucky there is a command line switch( -force-gfx-st ), which at least for now did work. for more information look here http://forum.unity3d.com/threads/126320-HandleD3DDeviceLost edit: awww it happend again -.- |
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We did not upgrade to Unity 3.5 specifically due to hearing about bugs in the multithreaded renderer (understandable that they were there, as it is a very new, very high-change feature). But I am just now putting in for 5.047: * Removed the backported sprite-object-pooling because it might be responsible for some out-of-memory crashes we've been getting reports of in the past few versions. Hopefully it will solve it, if not we'll keep looking :) |
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i'm looking forward to it and will give feedback to it once it's released |
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Turns out that change killed performance in a pretty bad way, so instead: * Added new toggle to the Advanced tab of the Settings window: Sprite Pool Size ** This option was mainly added to help players find some memory-crash and performance-regression problems and in general you shouldn't change it unless you know what that means. ** Low pool sizes will keep possible memory footprint lower and help keep the pool from causing excessive memory use, but will also substantially reduce performance when there are not enough objects in the pool to handle all the things being drawn in a given frame. ** High pool sizes have the opposite advantage/disadvantage. ** The default of 5000 should handle most sane cases but shift-clicking around with a bunch of selected ships can pile up a bunch of lines (and thus sprites) in a hurry. * Made the sprite pool periodically release the memory its holding (at the same times the game trims other parts of heap usage). |
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Ok, 5.047 is out with that slider (settings window, advanced tab). The default setting (5000) should both prevent memory crashes and not kill performance, so give it a try without changing the slider. But if you get memory crashes, try restarting and then turning it down to 500 and seeing if it still leads to crashes (your performance will be way lower with significant number of sprites on the screen, 500 is just a pretty-sure-this-couldn't-be-killing-memory number). If at that point it does stop crashing and performance is getting hit, turn it up a notch, etc. No need to restart between changes to the slider unless you're getting memory errors (in which case the restart is probably non-discretionary anyway). In any event, let me know how it goes, thanks :) |
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Oh, forgot one thing: if you press F3 to turn on debug output (you may need to move the cursor to an out of the way place near a corner of the window to get it to show, as it's shy about drawing under the mouse cursor) it will list some SpriteObjectList data at the bottom that you can screenshot to include in a report so I can see how many sprite-objects it's got in memory, how many it used that frame, etc. |
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now 5.049 there is something really odd there i played with the 5000 spirits as limit. the game crashed after serveral minutes (15 mins). but this time instead of clicking ok on the crash window i simply got back in game and the only difference i noticed was, that it didn't play any music. i added the new crash report and the save which i did after the crash |
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That is very odd! Though it sounds like it's at least a step in the right direction. Can you try setting the sprite pool max to 1000 and restarting? They way I originally did it a restart would not be necessary but when I backed out that leaking optimization it no longer tries to release the "extra" pool space after a shrink. Thanks :) |
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played a hour now and so far no crash (spirits is 1000). but sometimes there is a huge performance drop. lucky that's only for some seconds. |
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Glad to hear it's not crashed yet :) The performance drop is when there's more sprites trying to draw than fits in the pool, so if you change your view to cut down on the number of sprites (ironically, zooming out usually helps as nearby units of the same type "combine" icons) it can help. It may be that I should add a pool size of 2000 or something like that for these in-between cases, but the more important thing at this stage is making sure it doesn't crash with 1000 (unless it's a case where it would have crashed in 5.041 or earlier; that's not great either but at least it means it's not because of the backported stuff). |
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5.051 should have resolved this completely, let us know if not :) |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| Jul 21, 2012 5:17 pm | BlackCobra | New Issue | |
| Jul 21, 2012 5:17 pm | BlackCobra | File Added: ai war fleet command.rar | |
| Jul 21, 2012 5:43 pm | keith.lamothe | Note Added: 0027027 | |
| Jul 21, 2012 5:43 pm | keith.lamothe | Assigned To | => keith.lamothe |
| Jul 21, 2012 5:43 pm | keith.lamothe | Status | new => feedback |
| Jul 21, 2012 6:04 pm | BlackCobra | File Added: ArcenDebugLog.txt | |
| Jul 21, 2012 6:06 pm | BlackCobra | Note Added: 0027028 | |
| Jul 21, 2012 6:06 pm | BlackCobra | Status | feedback => assigned |
| Jul 21, 2012 7:19 pm | BlackCobra | Note Added: 0027029 | |
| Jul 21, 2012 7:20 pm | BlackCobra | File Added: Crash_2012-07-22_003926.rar | |
| Jul 21, 2012 11:05 pm | vadatajs | Note Added: 0027032 | |
| Jul 21, 2012 11:05 pm | vadatajs | File Added: Crash_2012-07-21_151008.zip | |
| Jul 22, 2012 8:03 am | BlackCobra | Note Added: 0027039 | |
| Jul 23, 2012 11:46 am | BlackCobra | File Added: Crash_2012-07-23_173330.rar | |
| Jul 23, 2012 11:46 am | BlackCobra | Note Edited: 0027039 | |
| Jul 23, 2012 11:50 am | BlackCobra | Note Edited: 0027039 | |
| Jul 23, 2012 12:10 pm | keith.lamothe | Note Added: 0027061 | |
| Jul 23, 2012 12:20 pm | BlackCobra | Note Added: 0027062 | |
| Jul 23, 2012 12:21 pm | BlackCobra | Note Edited: 0027062 | |
| Jul 23, 2012 12:22 pm | BlackCobra | Note Edited: 0027062 | |
| Jul 23, 2012 12:24 pm | BlackCobra | Note Edited: 0027062 | |
| Jul 23, 2012 4:05 pm | keith.lamothe | Note Added: 0027068 | |
| Jul 23, 2012 4:19 pm | BlackCobra | Note Added: 0027069 | |
| Jul 24, 2012 3:06 pm | keith.lamothe | Note Added: 0027103 | |
| Jul 24, 2012 4:28 pm | keith.lamothe | Note Added: 0027107 | |
| Jul 24, 2012 4:28 pm | keith.lamothe | Status | assigned => feedback |
| Jul 24, 2012 4:33 pm | keith.lamothe | Note Added: 0027108 | |
| Jul 25, 2012 12:11 pm | BlackCobra | Note Added: 0027137 | |
| Jul 25, 2012 12:11 pm | BlackCobra | Status | feedback => assigned |
| Jul 25, 2012 12:11 pm | BlackCobra | Note Edited: 0027137 | |
| Jul 25, 2012 12:12 pm | BlackCobra | File Added: Crash_2012-07-25_173810.rar | |
| Jul 25, 2012 12:13 pm | BlackCobra | File Added: b.rar | |
| Jul 25, 2012 12:41 pm | keith.lamothe | Note Added: 0027138 | |
| Jul 25, 2012 12:41 pm | keith.lamothe | Note Edited: 0027138 | |
| Jul 25, 2012 12:41 pm | keith.lamothe | Status | assigned => feedback |
| Jul 27, 2012 3:03 pm | BlackCobra | Note Added: 0027163 | |
| Jul 27, 2012 3:03 pm | BlackCobra | Status | feedback => assigned |
| Jul 27, 2012 4:13 pm | keith.lamothe | Note Added: 0027164 | |
| Jul 30, 2012 10:35 am | tigersfan | Relationship added | child of 0009055 |
| Jul 30, 2012 10:35 am | tigersfan | Relationship deleted | child of 0009055 |
| Jul 30, 2012 10:35 am | tigersfan | Relationship added | has duplicate 0009055 |
| Jul 30, 2012 11:01 pm | keith.lamothe | Internal Weight | => New |
| Jul 30, 2012 11:01 pm | keith.lamothe | Note Added: 0027207 | |
| Jul 30, 2012 11:01 pm | keith.lamothe | Status | assigned => resolved |
| Jul 30, 2012 11:01 pm | keith.lamothe | Fixed in Version | => 5.051 |
| Jul 30, 2012 11:01 pm | keith.lamothe | Resolution | open => fixed |
| Apr 14, 2014 9:28 am | Chris_McElligottPark | Category | Bug - Crash or Exception => Crash/Exception |
