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| ID | Project | Category | Date Submitted | Last Update | |
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| 0029314 | Heart Of The Machine | Suggestion | Aug 21, 2024 9:17 pm | Aug 24, 2024 11:11 am | |
| Reporter | Fluffiest | Assigned To | Chris_McElligottPark | ||
| Status | closed | Resolution | won't fix | ||
| Product Version | 0.586 Unit Customization | ||||
| Summary | 0029314: "Murder android for registration" should not use the term "murder" | ||||
| Description | The game is otherwise fairly consistent at using the word "murder" specifically and only to refer to instances of killing a defenceless human, and where doing so will unlock the "kill random humans for Mental Energy" events in Streetsense. This event is an exception - firstly, the android you're destroying for parts is not sentient, so this isn't murder in a moral sense. Secondly, it's not legally a person, so this isn't murder in the sense that homicide investigators will show up. And finally, it doesn't spawn the "kill people for Mental Energy" events like every other time you click a "murder" button. I like how "murder" is basically a keyword, and I think it should stay that way - which means not using it for other things. | ||||
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Would assimilate be a better term since its a 2 turn event? The cold blooded thing is a single turn. |
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The AI is a person, and should have the idiosyncrasies of one. The sense of disquiet in "Murder android" is a good one. The AI sees androids as something that can be murdered. It humanizes, pardon the term, the protagonist a little and gives a window to its values (namely, by suggesting it has any). This is valuable characterization. It needn't be deep, but a peek at who we're building is intriguing. Adding in how cold-blooded doesn't use the word upgrades it to delightful. |
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@miiikka I'm not sure as the definition of murder is a human based definition. Androids would not qualify in this sense as they are not self conscious or having a spirit. So at best it is breaking, destroying, assimilating, absorbing or any other term with similar definition. Altho our main protagonist is self sentient, its still not murder. Murder Definition - Murder is the unlawful killing of another human without justification or valid excuse committed with the necessary intention as defined by the law in a specific jurisdiction. This state of mind may, depending upon the jurisdiction, distinguish murder from other forms of unlawful homicide, such as manslaughter. |
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I have 2 words that might fit better. Slay or Liquidate |
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The wording is deliberate and meant to make you think it's wrong. I'll avoid saying more as that would get into spoilers, but the word choice is very intentional. |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| Aug 21, 2024 9:17 pm | Fluffiest | New Issue | |
| Aug 22, 2024 9:43 am | Mikeyd | Note Added: 0070003 | |
| Aug 23, 2024 5:43 pm | Miikka Ryökäs | Note Added: 0070008 | |
| Aug 23, 2024 9:08 pm | Mikeyd | Note Added: 0070009 | |
| Aug 23, 2024 11:58 pm | Mikeyd | Note Added: 0070011 | |
| Aug 24, 2024 11:11 am | Chris_McElligottPark | Assigned To | => Chris_McElligottPark |
| Aug 24, 2024 11:11 am | Chris_McElligottPark | Status | new => closed |
| Aug 24, 2024 11:11 am | Chris_McElligottPark | Resolution | open => won't fix |
| Aug 24, 2024 11:11 am | Chris_McElligottPark | Note Added: 0070019 |
