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0002017AI War 1 / ClassicSuggestion - Balance TweaksDec 21, 2010 5:27 pm
ReporterVinraith Assigned ToChris_McElligottPark  
Status resolvedResolutionfixed 
Product Version4.049 
Summary0002017: Hunter Killers need a significant buff
DescriptionAs it stands they die too easily and, more importantly, do far too little damage. If they're to replace thousands of ships, they should be able to level a sizable static defense or engage a large mass of fleet ships with reasonable success. They shouldn't be able to be killed by a modest fleet (a few hundred mixed mark ships) and they certainly shouldn't have to fire at a turret twice. I think a significant part of the problem is that they simply fire too few shots. They can't possibly have the impact of a large mass of ships if they can't hit a large number of targets, nor are their shots so damaging and frequent as to compensate. Right now they just aren't nearly as frightening, nor as damaging, as the ships they're replacing.
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related to 0002103 resolvedChris_McElligottPark Hunter Killers are WAY too ridiculous 

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keith.lamothe

Dec 11, 2010 9:24 pm

administrator   ~0006030

Yea, I think we're going to be getting into the territory of the devourer golem with this one ;)

Not the sheer magnitude of said, but the general effect.

Vinraith

Dec 11, 2010 9:55 pm

reporter   ~0006037

Yeah, a "down-spec" devourer golem is probably a good model here.

TechSY730

Dec 11, 2010 11:54 pm

reporter   ~0006046

And thus, my worst fears that a had when I first saw the unit in the side-bar list are now being realized X_X

Vinraith

Dec 12, 2010 12:10 am

reporter   ~0006048

@Tech

No worries, Chris said it was a first pass at the concept, and would require a lot of feedback and balancing. As long as they get it right in the long term, and I'm sure they will, it'll be fine. :)

KDR_11k

Dec 12, 2010 10:31 am

reporter   ~0006060

Maybe just add up all the DPS of the ships that get merged into the H-K and base it on that? Giving it all the HP would make it stronger than the swarm though unless its attack power decreases proportionally to the damage it has suffered.

Vinraith

Dec 16, 2010 2:20 pm

reporter   ~0006326

Last edited: Dec 16, 2010 2:21 pm

This is still a pretty significant balance problem as of 4.051. I'm pretty sure that the H/K creation messages aren't supposed to be a source of [i]relief[/i]. It takes a lot of the bite out of high AIP situations.

Chris_McElligottPark

Dec 17, 2010 12:21 pm

administrator   ~0006361

Last edited: Dec 17, 2010 12:22 pm

Let's see what this does:

* Hunter Killers now have 5x more health, and 10x more attack power. They also now fire 10x as many shots at once as before.

Spikey00

Dec 17, 2010 1:01 pm

reporter   ~0006368

That's a bit unsettling. LOL

Vinraith

Dec 17, 2010 1:46 pm

reporter   ~0006375

Well, now I'm afraid of them, that's for sure!

Chris_McElligottPark

Dec 21, 2010 5:27 pm

administrator   ~0006709

Resolved in favor of the new "they are overpowered!" thread.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
Dec 11, 2010 9:22 pm Vinraith New Issue
Dec 11, 2010 9:24 pm Vinraith Description Updated
Dec 11, 2010 9:24 pm keith.lamothe Note Added: 0006030
Dec 11, 2010 9:55 pm Vinraith Note Added: 0006037
Dec 11, 2010 11:54 pm TechSY730 Note Added: 0006046
Dec 12, 2010 12:10 am Vinraith Note Added: 0006048
Dec 12, 2010 10:31 am KDR_11k Note Added: 0006060
Dec 16, 2010 2:20 pm Vinraith Note Added: 0006326
Dec 16, 2010 2:21 pm Vinraith Note Edited: 0006326
Dec 17, 2010 12:21 pm Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0006361
Dec 17, 2010 12:21 pm Chris_McElligottPark Assigned To => Chris_McElligottPark
Dec 17, 2010 12:21 pm Chris_McElligottPark Status new => feedback
Dec 17, 2010 12:22 pm Chris_McElligottPark Note Edited: 0006361
Dec 17, 2010 1:01 pm Spikey00 Note Added: 0006368
Dec 17, 2010 1:46 pm Vinraith Note Added: 0006375
Dec 17, 2010 1:46 pm Vinraith Status feedback => assigned
Dec 21, 2010 5:26 pm Vinraith Relationship added related to 0002103
Dec 21, 2010 5:27 pm Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0006709
Dec 21, 2010 5:27 pm Chris_McElligottPark Status assigned => resolved
Dec 21, 2010 5:27 pm Chris_McElligottPark Resolution open => fixed