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IDProjectCategoryLast Update
0022541AI War 2Bug - GameplayJan 16, 2020 11:24 am
ReporterAdmiral Assigned ToRocketAssistedPuffin  
Severityminor 
Status resolvedResolutionfixed 
Product VersionBETA 1.102 Fireteam Refinements 
Fixed in Version1.308 Mega Performance 
Summary0022541: Double Ship Cap Line shows invalid choice "Parasite Hydra Head"
DescriptionSee attached screenshot and save game.

If you attempt to hack the Double Ship Cap line in system Siva, it will show a "Parasite Hydra Head x-1" entry which obviously you should be unable to choose (and shows an odd "x-1" suffix).
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related to 0022528 resolvedRocketAssistedPuffin Hydra heads substitute a ship line in the "Double Ship Line Cap" Hack 
related to 0022509 resolvedRocketAssistedPuffin Fleet Capacity Extender shows a Mini Cluster Bombs Ship Line. 

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Admiral

Jan 6, 2020 5:25 pm

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Admiral

Jan 6, 2020 5:30 pm

reporter   ~0055372

Additionally, maybe because of this bug, it also does not give me the option to double the ship cap of the TWO other fleet components in that fleet: MUGGER and SIEGE FRIGATE.

You can see this in the save if you attempt to do the hack at SIVA with STRIKE SODIUM fleet.

On the other hand, the ot her fleet (STRIKE YTTERBIUM) also cannot double its SIEGE FRIGATE fleet size.

Maybe the frigates are no longer doubleable? If so, that's a crying shame, that was what I always doubled. The tooltip does say "...doubles the ship cap for one of the strikecraft types..."

If that is now the case, maybe some Cap Doublers can be made to apply to frigates...

RocketAssistedPuffin

Jan 6, 2020 5:46 pm

reporter   ~0055373

It was decided to remove it from Frigates due to how they scale in cap now.

Before it worked like this. Start with 2 Frigates, get MK2, which is 1.25x cap. You can't have 25% of a Frigate, so it gave you a full third right there. Upgrade to MK3, 1.5x cap, still 3 Frigates, MK4, 2x cap, now up to 4. Mk5, 2.5x cap, now 5 Frigates, MK6, 3x cap, now 6.

To avoid that weird confusing scaling, you now get a Frigate at each Mark, no matter what. So you'd start at 2, MK2 now have 3, MK3 now have 4, MK4 now have 5, etc. You'd end up with 8 in the end, so without doubling it's a net boost (they scale better than strikecraft now). It was decided that it might make them a bit too strong if they could be doubled, so it was removed.

Admiral

Jan 6, 2020 6:38 pm

reporter   ~0055377

Thanks for the explanation @RocketAssistedPuffin.

I wonder if I can win, now, however. I almost lost on a difficulty level 4 game, in which I had doubled almost every one of my Siege Frigate fleets, which was the great majority of my attack value (got them to Mark VII). Not on the first part, but on "Phase II" (or whatever it is) when the enemy command post starts rampaging around the galaxy. (That was 1.024.) I'm playing a Difficulty 5 game now, we'll see...

RocketAssistedPuffin

Jan 16, 2020 11:24 am

reporter   ~0055603

* Units such as Hydra Heads and Mini Cluster Bombs will no longer show in the Double Shipline Cap option screen.
** Thanks to Admiral, Daniexpert and NRSirLimbo for reporting.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
Jan 6, 2020 5:25 pm Admiral New Issue
Jan 6, 2020 5:25 pm Admiral File Added: Debug Siva Double Hydra Head.save
Jan 6, 2020 5:25 pm Admiral File Added: Debug Siva Double Hydra Head.savemet
Jan 6, 2020 5:25 pm Admiral File Added: Screenshot (575).png
Jan 6, 2020 5:29 pm RocketAssistedPuffin Relationship added related to 0022528
Jan 6, 2020 5:30 pm RocketAssistedPuffin Relationship added related to 0022509
Jan 6, 2020 5:30 pm Admiral Note Added: 0055372
Jan 6, 2020 5:46 pm RocketAssistedPuffin Note Added: 0055373
Jan 6, 2020 6:38 pm Admiral Note Added: 0055377
Jan 16, 2020 11:24 am RocketAssistedPuffin Assigned To => RocketAssistedPuffin
Jan 16, 2020 11:24 am RocketAssistedPuffin Status new => resolved
Jan 16, 2020 11:24 am RocketAssistedPuffin Resolution open => fixed
Jan 16, 2020 11:24 am RocketAssistedPuffin Fixed in Version => 1.308 Mega Performance
Jan 16, 2020 11:24 am RocketAssistedPuffin Note Added: 0055603