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IDProjectCategoryLast Update
0021532AI War 2[All Projects] Balance IssueSep 11, 2019 8:52 pm
Reporterwm46Assigned Tox4000Bughunter 
Severityminor 
Status resolvedResolutionfixed 
Product Version0.884 The Helping Hat 
Fixed in Version0.888 Astro Examination 
Summary0021532: Showing what a ship type is before you hack it in an ARS (original: ARS Giving only 1x Brawler for hacking it)
DescriptionIntentional?

Seems like a waste of hacking points

It's on the planet to the south of my homeworld.
TagsNo tags attached.

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related to 0021376 resolvedx4000Bughunter Way to view the stats for ships in fleets that you have not yet captured. 
related to 0021571 resolvedx4000Bughunter Wave notification should let you preview the ship type 

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wm46

Aug 26, 2019 8:59 pm

reporter  

Uhh ARS.save (490,168 bytes)

BadgerBadger

Aug 26, 2019 9:10 pm

manager   ~0052644

That's operating as coded. Frigates from ARSs are limited to granting 1 or 2 units only because I was worried about balance. Keep in mind that if you're already investing a bunch of tech in that direction then you'll get a cap of 3 or 4. As to whether it's the best use of your hacking points, I don't know.

wm46

Aug 26, 2019 9:20 pm

reporter   ~0052645

It's a frigate? That changes my opinion on the ship granted, I had assumed that Brawler meant some kind of variant of the Vanguard, a high hp strikecraft. Having just one Vanguard would be useless for a slot, unless you use that slot to stack powerful ship types into one transport.

I guess the solution to this issue is to wait until Chris / Someone implements a ship dictionary (ala F1 menu from the first game) or other ship stat viewing GUI.

BadgerBadger

Aug 26, 2019 9:53 pm

manager   ~0052647

Yeah, I definitely would like both the ship stat viewing GUI and the ability to see how many increased stats you get for a gicen unit for a tech upgrade.

BadgerBadger

Aug 27, 2019 9:51 am

manager   ~0052648

Weaponmaster, note I have repurposed this bug report to be about adding appropriate UI to let players see what a unit type is that's only mentioned in hovertext.

If I see a name I don't recognize offered by a GCA/new flagship/ARS/etc then the only way to know what that is to capture/hack the thing or read the XML. A lot of times I might have a particular need in my fleet ("I need more tankiness" or "I need something to help take out that Superfortress"), so it's desirable to know which thing I haven't taken yet might provide that.

x4000Bughunter

Sep 11, 2019 8:52 pm

administrator   ~0053007

Thanks!

* "Toggle Stop-To-Shoot" is no longer bound to the "C" key. Instead, that is now bound to K.

* The "C" is now used as a new keybind called "Hold And Click To View Details Of Contents"
** Hold this key down when clicking a button or a ship in order to view the details of any ships contained within that clicked item (ships in a wave, ships in a transport, ships in a fleet, ships improved by a tech).
** This is SUPER important for finding out what the actual stats are of ships that otherwise would just be a list of names.

* The selection logic for the galaxy map view has been moved into the external open-source code, and will soon be able to be a lot more flexible like people have been asking for.
** Previously it was embedded in a way that made those other bits impossible, but no longer!

* The new "Details Of Multiple Ship Lines" screen is able to be shown for ships that you C-click directly, or on the sidebar, or on the galaxy map.
** But only if they actually have something of relevance to show!
** Right now it shows the details of ships that a GCA or ARS would grant, that are part of a fleet that you could capture but have not yet, or which are inside an AI reinforcement point (guard post), or which are being transported inside a fleet.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
Aug 26, 2019 8:59 pm wm46 New Issue
Aug 26, 2019 8:59 pm wm46 File Added: Uhh ARS.save
Aug 26, 2019 9:10 pm BadgerBadger Note Added: 0052644
Aug 26, 2019 9:20 pm wm46 Note Added: 0052645
Aug 26, 2019 9:53 pm BadgerBadger Note Added: 0052647
Aug 27, 2019 9:48 am BadgerBadger Summary ARS Giving only 1x Brawler for hacking it => Showing what a ship type is before you hack it in an ARS (original: ARS Giving only 1x Brawler for hacking it)
Aug 27, 2019 9:48 am BadgerBadger Description Updated View Revisions
Aug 27, 2019 9:48 am BadgerBadger Assigned To => x4000Bughunter
Aug 27, 2019 9:48 am BadgerBadger Status new => assigned
Aug 27, 2019 9:51 am BadgerBadger Note Added: 0052648
Aug 27, 2019 9:51 am BadgerBadger Relationship added related to 0021376
Sep 4, 2019 3:09 pm BadgerBadger Relationship added related to 0021571
Sep 11, 2019 8:52 pm x4000Bughunter Status assigned => resolved
Sep 11, 2019 8:52 pm x4000Bughunter Resolution open => fixed
Sep 11, 2019 8:52 pm x4000Bughunter Fixed in Version => 0.888 Astro Examination
Sep 11, 2019 8:52 pm x4000Bughunter Note Added: 0053007