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| ID | Project | Category | Date Submitted | Last Update | |
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| 0007190 | Valley 1 | Balance Issue | Apr 20, 2012 11:11 am | Dec 2, 2012 11:43 am | |
| Reporter | Penumbra | Assigned To | |||
| Severity | minor | ||||
| Status | considering | Resolution | open | ||
| Summary | 0007190: Flash of light lasts too long | ||||
| Description | If this spell were more like a flash of lightning, a quick way to get a glimpse of your surroundings. As is, I only have use for light orb when I need permanent light. Light snake and moon lamps creative uses are easily replaced by just hitting flash of light every 8 seconds or so. | ||||
| Tags | No tags attached. | ||||
| Internal Weight | Feature Suggestion | ||||
| parent of | 0006293 | considering | Logistics Spell: Ping. | |
| Not all the children of this issue are yet resolved or closed. | ||||
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yeah, have to agree with this. make it 2 seconds rather than 10 seconds and it's still useful without being horribly overpowered like it is now. That or make it have a cooldown longer than it's duration, so it is still powerful but you have to choose when you need it. |
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2 seconds on, 10 seconds off is a great idea! |
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I'd dissent from that opinion. If it only lasted for a few seconds with a longer cooldown, I would never use it at all. It would make more sense to use light orbs. |
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I still would. It would help answer the "Where should I go" question. Maybe it should be 5 seconds on, 10 off. As for actually seeing monsters for dodging or platforms for jumping, having to use the other light spells should be better. As is, flash of light is always the right spell to use, at all times. I think light should have more function in stealth missions too. Just casting flash of light at all times there is even more unbalanced. |
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Flash of light is as it stands by far the best light source in the game, heck it can even turn off night, and at Tier 5 lasts 50 seconds. To clarify my first post that was an OR, so a 10 second duration with a 60 second cooldown, this means you can't rely on it, but that for 10 seconds you will be able to see literally everything. I'd also suggest making the tiers only increase duration by say 2-5 seconds. |
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Wow, I forgot about upgrades. Tier one is so great, I've never bothered. |
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hmm, I just discovered it can also turn off The Deep. In the sense of disabling the darkness in it. |
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What if, instead of Flash of Light, you changed this spell to Sonar (Magic-dar?). It would be a single ping that would highlight boundary edges and monsters in the dark. Maybe even resources. Spamming it would be fine, because it wouldn't be giving too much information, even if the "after image" remained for quite a few seconds. Really cool if enemies only appeared at the location where they were when the original ping occurred. In the screen shot I just mocked up in my head, this is the coolest looking spell ever ;) |
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And, of course, Terraziel already suggested it. 0006293 |
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If flash of light was nerfed, I'd want light orb to have a bigger radius and NOT share a cooldown with placing a platform. |
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If it gets nerfed, then there needs to be a better chance of getting light-emitting enchants because right now i've only seen like 1 light-emitting enchant (on an acid gills) out of like 300 enchantments i've gained and even then, it was worse in every other stat than my old one. The sonar seems fine, but also spamming it would be annoying. At the end of the day, Flash of Light just defeats the object of the other 5 or so light options and makes the first hour or so of a new continent based around getting that (well light snakes, then Flash of Light). |
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This has only gotten worse, now that it lasts 30 seconds right from the start. Lighting should be an interesting problem, this just trivializes it entirely. |
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edit- note: this was all posted before downloading the jun 28th update. wasn't aware how big a change was made. with that said, i still stand with my second idea, but minus the tier information. a toggle mp/s would be nice with this spell. what about no major change (ie cool), besides cutting back durations from 10(+10) to like 2(+2), and in the line of other clearly-better options, make it have a prerequisite to craft - say ball of light 3, light snake 3? or perhaps even 4. so you have to take on at least 1, maybe 2 lieutenants to even get the tier orbs. Then from there, you'd have to rely on simpler light options until you can get your flash good enough to keep using. We all already know 10s is a great time for it and doesn't need much in upgrading unless you just want to press it less. The other option/thought i have for it, tell me what you think... is instead of 10(+10), is toggle, acting like storm dash, and draining mp/s, and at higher levels, the cost is really cut back. Say T1 75/s, T5 10/s? maybe still with the prerequisite. ADD-ON: I especially like the mp/s idea as it makes it so low-mana characters literally FLASH their inner light, still relying on simple light options, while someone like an age of magic character, with high mp and regen, can maintain a high-cost spell like that while still being functional, really showing off what a mastery of magic means. If in multiplayer, this just further helps emphasize the importance of a variety of character times to handle different tasks and challenges. |
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Definite no. I use this mostly because the other light sources are tedious. They dont add a challenge to the game.... they're *just* tedious. It also means I dont have to hit the bloody "make light" button every 5 seconds to the point where my arm flares up (this would literally stop me from playing this, period). And that being said.... I still collect Moon Lamps, and still use the things. Generally in boss rooms, or other situations when I dont want to cast this every 30 seconds. And Light Snake is a must. But if they changed this spell, they'd have to come up with some alternate, non-tedious way to handle light. Otherwise..... just use Draconites all the time, and NEVER, ever enter caves without using a Draconite. Is pretty much what my response to it would be. Oh, and as for the person who pointed out "it even lights up night time!", there's also Sunrise.... which kinda COMPLETELY undoes night time and is easy to cast. |
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Im against it too, turning a simple task like trying to see your surroundings into a tedium is not a good idea. |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| Apr 20, 2012 11:11 am | Penumbra | New Issue | |
| Apr 20, 2012 11:19 am | Terraziel | Note Added: 0022505 | |
| Apr 20, 2012 11:30 am | Penumbra | Note Added: 0022510 | |
| Apr 20, 2012 11:48 am | BobTheJanitor | Note Added: 0022513 | |
| Apr 20, 2012 11:58 am | Penumbra | Note Added: 0022520 | |
| Apr 20, 2012 12:09 pm | Terraziel | Note Added: 0022522 | |
| Apr 20, 2012 12:20 pm | Penumbra | Note Added: 0022525 | |
| Apr 20, 2012 2:35 pm | Terraziel | Note Added: 0022538 | |
| Apr 23, 2012 2:02 pm | tigersfan | Internal Weight | => Feature Suggestion |
| Apr 23, 2012 2:02 pm | tigersfan | Status | new => considering |
| May 2, 2012 10:55 am | Penumbra | Note Added: 0023275 | |
| May 2, 2012 10:55 am | Penumbra | Relationship added | parent of 0006293 |
| May 2, 2012 10:56 am | Penumbra | Note Added: 0023276 | |
| May 2, 2012 11:14 am | Quaix | Note Added: 0023277 | |
| May 2, 2012 12:02 pm | MouldyK | Note Added: 0023282 | |
| Jul 1, 2012 10:08 am | Penumbra | Note Added: 0026189 | |
| Jul 1, 2012 12:19 pm | Kio | Note Added: 0026191 | |
| Jul 1, 2012 12:23 pm | Kio | Note Edited: 0026191 | |
| Jul 1, 2012 12:42 pm | Kio | Note Edited: 0026191 | |
| Jul 1, 2012 5:41 pm | Misery | Note Added: 0026200 | |
| Jul 1, 2012 5:43 pm | Misery | Note Edited: 0026200 | |
| Jul 1, 2012 5:45 pm | Misery | Note Edited: 0026200 | |
| Dec 2, 2012 11:43 am | kaboro | Note Added: 0029086 | |
| Apr 14, 2014 9:29 am | Chris_McElligottPark | Category | Gameplay - Balance Issue => Balance Issue |
